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[The dealer] was good, but.. she told everyone she thought [Free Bet Blackjack] was a dumb game!! 'You split cards you would never split because it's free. You split those nines against a ten - you'd never do that if it weren't free.'
Thanks for sharing your experience, rhodyBob! Gee, do ya think the dealer had any idea what the house edge is for the game? If she trashes FBBJ I shudder to think what she says when dealing Three Card Poker. I'll be out and about at Mohegan Sun this weekend. I'll drop by the FBBJ tables and share back.“You don’t bring a bone saw to a negotiation.” - Robert Jordan, former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia
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My second experience with FBBJ. Played again for about an hour. Left the table flat even, not counting two $2.50 tips and a couple of $1s for coffees. Was up $75 at one point but bled it all back betting the minimum when the count was bad, or when I lost it.
Another comprehensive report - thank you again rhodyBob
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The dealer was one of the best I have ever seen, just in the way she handled the cards, the chips, the lammers, the whole presentation.. ..
That's great to hear as a good dealer easily helps this game due to the added interaction needed.
She was good, but.. she told everyone she thought it was a dumb game!! ..
The good feeling about the dealer didn't last long :-) If she had said 'I'm not sure if I would play this game myself as it involves unconventional splits and doubles' (or something like that) then that would be fine. But to say that it is a dumb game when you have no idea of the house edge is both detrimental and misleading to new players who may be wanting to try it.
My reply to her would have been something like 'Casinos like to install something new to keep the floor fresh and updated and offer players more options to gamble. If Blackjack variants were not created then the regular game would be replaced by other carnival-style games such as poker, or, worse still, the regular game would be replaced with 6/5 version, which has happened a lot. Even more damaging to table games than that is that the game could be replaced by slot machines. So, the people who are creating new game variants are trying to keep the optimal amount of table games on the floor. If Free Bet is replacing a current Blackjack game with similar odds but one in which a lot of players find more enjoyable then how does that relate to it being a dumb game?'
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Again, several people walked up, played a couple of hands, and wandered off. Honestly, I think the bet-on-22 spot on the table added confusion to the learning process. Too much new variation to absorb all at once. Tonight it wasn't because of the language barrier, but I think casual gamblers are intimidated (intentionally) by the casino in general, and hesitate to show their ignorance or lack of 'sophistication' by asking how to play.
This is a good point rhodyBob and can really hurt the game when it is not explained quickly and clearly. I always tell dealers to say 'The casino will double and split your hands for free and in return if the dealer gets 22 then your wager is a push'. I've seen too many dealers go into detail about the 'Push 22' side-wager which is totally unnecessary as a lot won't play it anyway.
Get down to the basics and leave it at that - KISS definitely the key here!
That said, betting on the dealer 22 was the focus when I was there tonight. There was a lot of action on it, including a guy who was betting $25 on it while betting $100-$200 on the regular game.
Nice to hear that although most tables in Vegas have gone without the '22' side wager.
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Can't figure out the odds on this 22 as easily, but we know that no wager that pays 50:1 will come in even close to 1 time in 50. Are the true odds for this available somewhere?
If it's 8/1, 20/1 and 50/1 then it's 6.84%.
I'll keep playing it, although if all the FBBJ tables go up to $25 this weekend like all the other $10 tables, then it's back to $5 steerage for me. Otherwise, the idea of not-losing a double or split that goes bad because my money isn't out there is very attractive. I split those nines, actually out to three hands, and won them all. $30 back for risking $10. Not too shabby. I do hope it survives.
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Glad you still like the game and nice result with the 9's. Was it against a dealer 10?
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BTW, one minor note. The felt on my table had a typo!
I'll pass this information on to the relevant channels.
Thank you again rhodyBob for taking the time to post!!!
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I really appreciate those that have taken the time to both respond in this thread as well as provide detailed reports on how the game is progressing at Mohegan Sun and other casinos.
As a small 'token' of appreciation (excuse the pun :-) ), if anyone would like to own one of the gold 'Free Bet' coins (great for using a card guard in poker) then I will happily send one on if they email me at geoff at blackjackswitch dot com with their address details.
These are not given away or sold by casinos so they are quite difficult to come by.
Anyway, if anyone would like one then they have until Monday 7th April midnight (Vegas time) to send me a quick message.
As a small 'token' of appreciation (excuse the pun :-) ), if anyone would like to own one of the gold 'Free Bet' coins (great for using a card guard in poker) then I will happily send one on if they email me at geoff at blackjackswitch dot com with their address details.
These are not given away or sold by casinos so they are quite difficult to come by.
Anyway, if anyone would like one then they have until Monday 7th April midnight (Vegas time) to send me a quick message.
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[Push 22 Free Bet Blackjack side bet odds are] 8/1, 20/1 and 50/1 then it's 6.84%.
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Ouch! The only positive spin I can put on that is 'it's a better return than the Pairplus Three Card Poker bet.'“You don’t bring a bone saw to a negotiation.” - Robert Jordan, former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia
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My second experience with FBBJ. Played again for about an hour. Left the table flat even, not counting two $2.50 tips and a couple of $1s for coffees. Was up $75 at one point but bled it all back betting the minimum when the count was bad, or when I lost it.
The dealer was one of the best I have ever seen, just in the way she handled the cards, the chips, the lammers, the whole presentation. Cheerful, friendly, but just so efficient and in control that I figure she was working this low-end (for her, not me) game precisely because they wanted someone who was dependable and adapted well to the different 'atmosphere' of the game. My problem when I run into a dealer like that is I get self-conscious about keeping the count and lose it. I know it's my option to proceed at my own speed, but when the dealer has that level of competence at what he/she does, I let them. My fault. I think there were opportunities I missed because of it.
She was good, but.. she told everyone she thought it was a dumb game!! 'You split cards you would never split because it's free. You split those nines against a ten - you'd never do that if it weren't free.' I kind of like this game, and since the inventor is here talking about it, I'd like it to be successful, even if I decide that it's not for me.
Again, several people walked up, played a couple of hands, and wandered off. Honestly, I think the bet-on-22 spot on the table added confusion to the learning process. Too much new variation to absorb all at once. Tonight it wasn't because of the language barrier, but I think casual gamblers are intimidated (intentionally) by the casino in general, and hesitate to show their ignorance or lack of 'sophistication' by asking how to play.
That said, betting on the dealer 22 was the focus when I was there tonight. There was a lot of action on it, including a guy who was betting $25 on it while betting $100-$200 on the regular game. The dealer at one point had three 22s in a row, and he was on all three. She also had one suited 22 which no one was betting. As a result of that one, two other people started betting it, and, of course, that was the end of that. More action than I would have expected, but I never bet match-the-dealer either, since the odds versus the reality is so easy to see that, to me, it's dumb. Can't figure out the odds on this 22 as easily, but we know that no wager that pays 50:1 will come in even close to 1 time in 50. Are the true odds for this available somewhere?
I'll keep playing it, although if all the FBBJ tables go up to $25 this weekend like all the other $10 tables, then it's back to $5 steerage for me. Otherwise, the idea of not-losing a double or split that goes bad because my money isn't out there is very attractive. I split those nines, actually out to three hands, and won them all. $30 back for risking $10. Not too shabby. I do hope it survives.
BTW, one minor note. The felt on my table had a typo! There's some verbiage on the edge closest to the players that explain the rules on doubles, and there's a letter 'P' missing. I forget what the word is but it needs a 'P'. In fact, the 'P' is actually present on the felt, a few inches down from the text where it should be! I have no idea how they make felt. The letters are not glued on, so it's not like someone ironed it on in the wrong place. If it was just missing it would make sense, but how in the world did this one letter wander off from it's assigned spot and end up in the middle of another line? Who would notice such a thing? Hey. Follow some of the discussions around here and you think being this anal about the felt is weird? Sure.
The dealer was one of the best I have ever seen, just in the way she handled the cards, the chips, the lammers, the whole presentation. Cheerful, friendly, but just so efficient and in control that I figure she was working this low-end (for her, not me) game precisely because they wanted someone who was dependable and adapted well to the different 'atmosphere' of the game. My problem when I run into a dealer like that is I get self-conscious about keeping the count and lose it. I know it's my option to proceed at my own speed, but when the dealer has that level of competence at what he/she does, I let them. My fault. I think there were opportunities I missed because of it.
She was good, but.. she told everyone she thought it was a dumb game!! 'You split cards you would never split because it's free. You split those nines against a ten - you'd never do that if it weren't free.' I kind of like this game, and since the inventor is here talking about it, I'd like it to be successful, even if I decide that it's not for me.
Again, several people walked up, played a couple of hands, and wandered off. Honestly, I think the bet-on-22 spot on the table added confusion to the learning process. Too much new variation to absorb all at once. Tonight it wasn't because of the language barrier, but I think casual gamblers are intimidated (intentionally) by the casino in general, and hesitate to show their ignorance or lack of 'sophistication' by asking how to play.
That said, betting on the dealer 22 was the focus when I was there tonight. There was a lot of action on it, including a guy who was betting $25 on it while betting $100-$200 on the regular game. The dealer at one point had three 22s in a row, and he was on all three. She also had one suited 22 which no one was betting. As a result of that one, two other people started betting it, and, of course, that was the end of that. More action than I would have expected, but I never bet match-the-dealer either, since the odds versus the reality is so easy to see that, to me, it's dumb. Can't figure out the odds on this 22 as easily, but we know that no wager that pays 50:1 will come in even close to 1 time in 50. Are the true odds for this available somewhere?
I'll keep playing it, although if all the FBBJ tables go up to $25 this weekend like all the other $10 tables, then it's back to $5 steerage for me. Otherwise, the idea of not-losing a double or split that goes bad because my money isn't out there is very attractive. I split those nines, actually out to three hands, and won them all. $30 back for risking $10. Not too shabby. I do hope it survives.
BTW, one minor note. The felt on my table had a typo! There's some verbiage on the edge closest to the players that explain the rules on doubles, and there's a letter 'P' missing. I forget what the word is but it needs a 'P'. In fact, the 'P' is actually present on the felt, a few inches down from the text where it should be! I have no idea how they make felt. The letters are not glued on, so it's not like someone ironed it on in the wrong place. If it was just missing it would make sense, but how in the world did this one letter wander off from it's assigned spot and end up in the middle of another line? Who would notice such a thing? Hey. Follow some of the discussions around here and you think being this anal about the felt is weird? Sure.
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I think I was at your table..the dealer was Laura? & an Asian dude walked off with a huge stack after making it look easy? were you my investor on a soft double?
Fun way to lose $300..was up by that much at one point, but I am a sucker for free things :-) they put me down as winning $350..can I dispute that?
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The printing mistake on the Mohegan Sun felts is very minor. It will not be noticed by most and in no way affects the game. In the information about splits the word except is spelled exce t, with a gap. The missing p ended up on top of the next line down. It was a printing error, not a spelling error. This is only on the left side of the felt. The right side is okay.Reports of dealers complaining are true but that reflects on them rather than the game. No one takes them seriously and they aren't driving anyone away from the tables that I can see.
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Players are enjoying the game but are shying away from the side bet. Almost every player I've watched knows the strategy and that surprised me.
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They don't open every table in pit 5 until the shift change at 1PM but all four Free Bet tables have been open around the clock. They really seem to be making an effort to get people to play.
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As much as if bugs me, I think this should ALWAYS be bundled with the Dealer-22 sidebet for the simple reason that it acts as a passive reminder (or active, if it's bet) that 22s are pushes.
Cues don't always work though; I have the habit of playing with my chips and driving one into the table on an expected loss (like 21v22..). 'Hey, don't worry! 22, you won!' '..Oh. Huh. Oops.' *-1 karma*
I think it's less that people 'know' the strategy and rather it's intuitive (outside the possibility of deceptive looking hands..) Like anything low pair is jumk, so you might as well hope for a double, or at least a second chance at making a decent hand. 9vT is kind of a long shot anyways, so might as well pray for the double payoff since what a normal player sort of expects is a losing 19v20 anyhow.
Also, I will totally take you up on a Freebet token once I get to a computer. Woo!
Cues don't always work though; I have the habit of playing with my chips and driving one into the table on an expected loss (like 21v22..). 'Hey, don't worry! 22, you won!' '..Oh. Huh. Oops.' *-1 karma*
I think it's less that people 'know' the strategy and rather it's intuitive (outside the possibility of deceptive looking hands..) Like anything low pair is jumk, so you might as well hope for a double, or at least a second chance at making a decent hand. 9vT is kind of a long shot anyways, so might as well pray for the double payoff since what a normal player sort of expects is a losing 19v20 anyhow.
Also, I will totally take you up on a Freebet token once I get to a computer. Woo!
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Also, I will totally take you up on a Freebet token once I get to a computer. Woo!
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He already emailed me back saying it will be on the way. Very nice offer!
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As much as if bugs me, I think this should ALWAYS be bundled with the Dealer-22 sidebet for the simple reason that it acts as a passive reminder (or active, if it's bet) that 22s are pushes.
Cues don't always work though; I have the habit of playing with my chips and driving one into the table on an expected loss (like 21v22..). 'Hey, don't worry! 22, you won!' '..Oh. Huh. Oops.' *-1 karma*
I think it's less that people 'know' the strategy and rather it's intuitive (outside the possibility of deceptive looking hands..) Like anything low pair is jumk, so you might as well hope for a double, or at least a second chance at making a decent hand. 9vT is kind of a long shot anyways, so might as well pray for the double payoff since what a normal player sort of expects is a losing 19v20 anyhow.
Also, I will totally take you up on a Freebet token once I get to a computer. Woo!
Cues don't always work though; I have the habit of playing with my chips and driving one into the table on an expected loss (like 21v22..). 'Hey, don't worry! 22, you won!' '..Oh. Huh. Oops.' *-1 karma*
I think it's less that people 'know' the strategy and rather it's intuitive (outside the possibility of deceptive looking hands..) Like anything low pair is jumk, so you might as well hope for a double, or at least a second chance at making a decent hand. 9vT is kind of a long shot anyways, so might as well pray for the double payoff since what a normal player sort of expects is a losing 19v20 anyhow.
Also, I will totally take you up on a Freebet token once I get to a computer. Woo!
that was an incredibly mind-fucking piece of yesterday's action..watching 50:1 dealer 22's pass us by two or three times & multiple 20:1's (a number of which were hit by one player). still had a blast playing & looking forward to coming back with friends & alienating a table..the ploppies were out in full effect & doing extra irritating things (i.e. split 3's against A, frequently pulling back & re-entering, etc). those risky free splits are really not worth it..good luck explaining that to them though..I don't even try. saw the dealer try to explain & she was promptly met with 'but it's free!' by at least two people.
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that was an incredibly mind-fucking piece of yesterday's action..watching 50:1 dealer 22's pass us by two or three times & multiple 20:1's (a number of which were hit by one player). still had a blast playing & looking forward to coming back with friends & alienating a table..the ploppies were out in full effect & doing extra irritating things (i.e. split 3's against A, frequently pulling back & re-entering, etc). those risky free splits are really not worth it..good luck explaining that to them though..I don't even try. saw the dealer try to explain & she was promptly met with 'but it's free!' by at least two people.
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Not sure you're right there -- basic FBBJ strategy says split whenever you can, regardless.
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